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10-27-2009, 08:20 AM

Bingostosh

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Lens recommendations?

Looking to turn about $1700 into a DSLR kit. I've pretty much decided on the Canon T1i with the 18-55 kit lens and a 50mm 1.8, but am undecided as to what to do about the longer lenses for $6-700. Thoughts aside from fuck you?

10-27-2009, 10:18 AM

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get a used 40d

Don't buy mediocre glass, you'll just come to resent it with time. If you want a 50mm, get the 1.4, not the plastic 1.8.

What do you mean by long lens? 70-200 long? Or 85mm long?

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10-27-2009, 10:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvil

Fabulous camera... mine was stolen last week, so when I get my insurance money I'll pick up one of those.

Don't buy mediocre glass, you'll just come to resent it with time. If you want a 50mm, get the 1.4, not the plastic 1.8.

What do you mean by long lens? 70-200 long? Or 85mm long?

I may just use my old manual focus 50mm 1.8 for a while, until I see how the 18-55 kit lens does.

I had in mind something in the 70-200 range - I guess the question is actually what lenses to buy with the $900 left over after I get the camera & kit lens. Do I get 2 for around $400 each, or a total of 3 somehow. (50 prime, shop used, etc.)

10-27-2009, 11:39 AM

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or get 1? go for the body only and use the extra few hundred bucks to get a used one of these: http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/...7&cat=27&page=1

lenses are the most important part of the camera. kit lenses suck.

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10-27-2009, 12:59 PM

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really, you should do you reading (and used lens-buying) here: http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showcat.php?cat=27

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10-27-2009, 02:02 PM

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This is a really good site, too: http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/index.php

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvil

If you want a 50mm, get the 1.4, not the plastic 1.8.

This part is not true. The 50mm f1.8 is the best buy out there. It's a great lens for under $100.

10-27-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Anvil

Going body-only is a nice idea - there's a Sigma or Tamron 24-70 / 2.8 that reviews well - may consider that for a walking-around lens in lieu of a kit special.

10-27-2009, 02:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingostosh

Going body-only is a nice idea - there's a Sigma or Tamron 24-70 / 2.8 that reviews well - may consider that for a walking-around lens in lieu of a kit special.

I have used both Sigma and Tamron lenses. My two Tamron lenses have both broken down within 5 - 7 years. Never had a problem with the Sigma.

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10-27-2009, 05:00 PM

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stay away from the 50 1.8
ya, it's cheap and produces decent images - but that's besides the point. it's built like shit and autofocus is poor, slow, and noisy....and not very accurate. the manual focus ring is impossible.

you could pick up a used canon 40d for $500 +/-
screw the rebel series - much better to get a slightly used 40d/50d than a brand new rebel. you'll much more enjoy the size, feel of the body material, features, etc.

$500-600 for a body. that leaves you $1100-1200 for lenses...

you can go a few different routes for the wide/normal focal range:

canon 50 1.4 (~300-350)
or
canon ef-s 60mm 2.8 macro.

if you dont need the fast 1.4 glass the 50 offers, youll love the 60 2.8. it's sharp as a tack from center to edge wide open. and, it does 1:1 magnification if you want to fool around with macro shooting.

you could then go with a tamron 17-50 to cover the normal range, ($350ish), and for telephoto: canon 70-200L f/4 (~$550)

that would be a pretty killer start

10-27-2009, 05:39 PM

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oops, I thought you were buying the 7D. I take it back. Get a used 40D, great camera.

I've had... maybe 7 lenses since I started using a DSLR (5 years). The cheapest never last me long - I hate them for the mediocrity they produce. Lenses lose very little of resale value, so spend your money well and sell it when you want something different.

I'd stay away from Tamron/Sigma for the same reason I stay away from cheap lenses. Get a prime or get an L.

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10-28-2009, 09:40 AM

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oops, I thought you were buying the 7D. I take it back. Get a used 40D, great camera.

Any strong opinions between a used or reconditioned 40D or 50D, or a Nikon D60 or D90 in the same condition?

I like the in-body stabilization on the newer Olympus cameras, but the smaller lens selection knocks them and Pentax out of consideration.

Assuming the D3000 and D5000 fall into the same category as the Rebels

10-28-2009, 08:09 PM

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Buy a used 40D and pick up a 70-200mm L f2.8 or 28-70mm f2.8 L.

Outstanding pair there.

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10-30-2009, 10:02 PM

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Buy a used 40D and pick up a 70-200mm L f2.8 or 28-70mm f2.8 L.

Outstanding pair there.

Yes, this, except if you can only afford one, get the 28-70mm. The 70-200 is too limited a range if its your only lens (not to mention it's massive and heavy).

Cant comment on Canon v Nikon, as I dont use Nikon.

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10-30-2009, 11:07 PM

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Either of you guys used the 24-105mm f/4L IS?

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10-30-2009, 11:44 PM

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No... f4 is a bit limiting, although I guess the IS evens it out. I'm planning to replace my stolen 40D + lenses with a 7D and 16-40mm when I get home. It'll cost around $3100, which sucks, but it should last me years.

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10-30-2009, 11:54 PM

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Your shit got stolen?

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10-31-2009, 07:41 AM

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Yeah. Got mugged last week with my camera gear and passport on me. Major suck, especially since Im just leaving to see the rest of Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, and more of Peru.

Upside? It was insured, so I should be getting at least enough for a 7D body when I return.

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11-01-2009, 02:32 PM

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I'm really sorry to hear that. That's always one of my fears, to be robbed of my gear.

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